171. Drinking Alcohol
Whether you wish you drank less or want to stop altogether, alcohol can be a tricky topic.
Maybe you love it. Maybe you hate it. Maybe both of those sentiments apply.
Maybe you, like me, love wine. Maybe you really delight in the taste and scent and the pomp of it.
Maybe you love a beer on a hot day.
Maybe a fancy cocktail makes you feel sophisticated and special.
Maybe most of the time you drink it’s no problem, but once and a while, things get out of hand.
Maybe you simply want to drink just a bit less on the regular.
Maybe you feel good about the amount you drink, but you don’t like the way your brain can’t stop thinking about it.
Alcohol is such a big part of many cultures.
It’s how you celebrate, but also how you soothe yourself after a long day or difficult event.
It’s what you do when you’re with family and friends, but maybe it’s also what you do alone and don’t want anyone to know about.
If you want to shift your drinking habits or change how you relate to alcohol in any form, this week’s episode of Satisfied AF is for you.
We’ll deep dive into the socialization around drinking, why it can be a hard habit to change, how to make shifts if that’s what you want to do, and I’ll even fill you in on my own coaching journey with alcohol. Can’t wait to share with you and hear what you have to say about this week’s episode!
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WHAT YOU’LL LEARN FROM THIS EPISODE:
How we’ve been socialized around alcohol.
Why alcohol holds the place it does in our lives.
The contradictory messages we’re told about drinking alcohol.
How my personal experience with drinking alcohol has evolved.
Why judgment and shame don’t fuel positive change.
What to do if you want to change your drinking habits.
The benefits and drawbacks I’ve experienced from spending time alcohol-free.
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Quit Like a Woman by Holly Whitaker
FULL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT:
This week we’re talking about alcohol.
The Satisfied AF podcast is the place to learn how to create a life and career that’s wildly delicious. Want a steamier sex life? We’ve got you. Want a more satisfying career? We’ll cover that too. And you can be sure we’ll spend lots of time talking about how to build connected, fun relationships that can handle life’s ups and downs. No matter what goals you’re working on, this show will help you create a one of a kind life that is just right for you. Join me, life and career coach Kori Linn and each week I’ll give you lots of practical tips, tools, and proven strategies to help you create all the satisfaction your heart desires.
Hello, hello, hello. Happy Wednesday. I am feeling almost all the way better and it’s so exciting. I was sick for so long, y’all. It’s been almost a month since I first started feeling bad and it’s been a wild ride. And I’m just feeling so grateful to be feeling even most of the way better.
I can breathe through my nose, that’s super exciting. I can talk. There was a period of time where I could only talk for a little bit and then my voice would start to hurt. Maybe you’ve had that happen before with a sore throat. And I’m just really grateful for feeling well.
And I’m trying to really hold onto that because something I’ve noticed is that right after being sick, I’m so grateful to be able to breathe through my nose. I’m so grateful just to feel normal. And then after a while, feeling normal stops seeming special, right?
Maybe you’ve experienced this in your own life too, because I see this with clients all the time. It’s like we get used to things working and then that stops seeming like something wonderful. And one of the cornerstones of my coaching philosophy is that you can have so much satisfaction in your life immediately by noticing and reveling and delighting in the things that are working.
So every day I’ve been opening up my notes app and writing what’s working, what’s going well, which is something I recommend all the time. And I’m just continuing to put like, I can breathe through my nose. I’m sleeping. My limbs work, which they didn’t stop working while I was ill, but realizing how exciting it is to breathe through my nose has made me realize all the other things that are working that didn’t even stop working while I was super sick. And that’s just all a lot that I can really enjoy. And why not enjoy it?
Why not enjoy the things that are working and take pleasure in those, even as there are other things we’re continuing to work on? Because we’re never going to be complete, right? Life is always constantly moving. Even when we achieve one goal, then we have new goals.
Like I remember when I was brand new in my business, all I wanted was to make $100,000 in 12 months and basically replace my corporate pay. And then I did that. And then, of course, I started setting bigger goals for myself. And then this past year actually, it was the first year ever in my business where I made less money than the year before.
And there’s part of me that was so disappointed and disheartened by that. But there’s this other part of me that’s like, okay, but the amount of money I made is still a lot of money. It’s still more than $100,000. And that old version of me who first started my business, she would be over fucking joyed by that amount of money.
So we can also revel and delight in that, even if we want to have bigger goals that take us further or that are beyond our current ability or capacity or just beyond what we’re currently experiencing.
Okay, before we get into today’s topic, I wanted to read something one of my previous clients wrote. So sometimes after working with people, I send out questions to ask about their experience. One of the questions I asked in this round was what results have you created with coaching that would seem like absolute magic to the pre-coaching version of you? And here’s what this client wrote.
We’re going to call this client Janine. Janine says, “I came into coaching looking for help in my career, but knowing I was working on some things in my personal life that I had put off addressing for some time. Those personal experiences left me living a very guarded life, protecting myself from allowing people into my life. Working with Kori, I knew I was ready to address this part of my life in a safe space.
Kori heard my story without judgment and helped me to choose how I wanted to think about it to create a different outcome. I moved through this and came out the other side knowing that I handled it with great respect and care for all, including myself. I am finding my way back to a lighter version of myself. The last year of my life has brought the biggest jumps in my personal growth and healing in spite of working on it very intentionally for years.”
Thank you so much, Janine, for sharing your experience with everyone. And yes, I do have permission to share. And thank you very much for all the work you did. Coaching is a co-creative process. So I show up as the coach with everything I know, and my clients also show up and then they have to bring the topics and they have to tell me what’s going on.
And then coaching can be very confronting too, right? So they’re looking at these things going on in their life, looking at these patterns that have been longstanding for months, for years, sometimes for decades, and then very intentionally shifting that and choosing to do it a different way so that they can have a life that’s more satisfying and delicious.
And I’m so proud and impressed by the things my clients do, by the changes they make and the choices they make and the ways that they reorient their lives. So thank you so much, Janine, for trusting me with your story and with everything that was going on with you. And it was my pleasure and delight to coach you and help you come back to a lighter version of yourself and help you take the biggest jump in your personal growth and healing you had in years.
Okay, now let’s jump into this week’s topic. We’re talking about alcohol, and this is a really interesting topic. It’s something I’ve done a lot of coaching on myself, and I’ve coached a lot of clients on this as well. So first things first, we’re just going to say this is not advice. I am not a medical professional. I’m not a substance abuse professional.
And if you’re experiencing drinking in an alcoholic way, this podcast is not the right resource for you. There are plenty of other resources. If you just get online and Google for that, you’ll find plenty of resources for whatever area of the world you’re in, and there are amazing things out there.
But what we’re talking about for this podcast is how are we as human beings socialized around alcohol? What are the narratives we have about alcohol? What are our alcohol habits and would we like to change them? And this is for people who maybe want to stop drinking altogether or maybe just want to stop over drinking or shift their drinking habits somewhat.
But again, it’s not for people who are experiencing alcoholism and substance abuse issues. That’s a different topic, actually. Even though it still could be about alcohol, it’s a different topic and there’s going to be different teachings there.
Okay, so now that we have those caveats out of the way, let’s talk about booze, y’all. So some of the stuff I want to talk about first is like the socialization around alcohol. I think this is really important for understanding the urges we have and why alcohol holds the place it does in our lives.
So I don’t know about you, but for me, the way I’ve been socialized around alcohol is like this is for adults. This is for fun. Like this is something we do on weekends. It’s something we do in the evenings. It’s something we do at parties. It’s something you do when you’re celebrating. It’s something you’re doing when you’ve had a bad day, but it’s also something you do when you have a great day.
Like it’s really interesting if you say the word celebration to me, the very first thing I think of is the party popper emoji, which is like my number one most used emoji all the time, both in personal communications and also in communications to my clients because I’m all about celebration. But the number two thing that I think of is a glass of champagne, right? Sparkling wine is seen as this symbol, this emblem of celebration in our culture.
Think about weddings, right? We toast with sparkling wine. We toast with champagne. You think about when someone is like, oh, I’ve had a hard day, I just need a glass of wine. Or they’re like, oh, we’re meeting up with my friends, we’re going to get beers. Or like, oh, we’re very sophisticated, we’re going to drink our scotch or whatever.
And I think it’s really interesting because I think socialization is so powerful and it shapes our lives so much more than we even realize it does. And that’s something we talk about all the time on the podcast, right? Like we’ve been socialized often to associate our worthiness with whether or not other people approve of us and what they think of us.
Or we’ve been socialized to associate our worthiness with specifically how well we’re doing at work and if we’re working harder than everyone else or if we’re moving up the ranks quickly enough. And so I think alcohol is a topic where that socialization is just as impactful.
And then there’s also this other set of socialization around alcohol of like, don’t drink too much. Don’t be someone who can’t say no to drinking. Don’t be sloppy. Socialization is so interesting, right? Because it’s such a mix and match, right? It’s such a collection of all these various ideas.
You can have multiple pieces of socialization that directly conflict with each other. I think that happens all the time, actually, and creates a lot of feelings of stuckness or confusion internally when we have multiple pieces of socialization that are pushing us in different directions, right?
Anyways, so there’s all this other socialization about alcohol too because alcoholism is something that does happen a lot. Like there’s alcoholism in my family and I know a lot of people who have alcoholism in their families and it’s something we see in the media and stories. It’s interesting because you see both, right?
Like I watch a lot of TV, and I watched even more TV while I was sick, and it was interesting to see on the shows like some of the shows the drinking of alcohol is very common. Like everyone always has a drink in their hand and then there are other shows where there’s no alcohol and I thought that was really interesting.
One of the shows I watched, it’s like I don’t know that I saw them drink alcohol except for maybe a few times and I watched like four seasons of it, but they were smoking cigarettes, right? So then that’s another substance, like that was the substance that they were using all the time throughout the show.
So there’s the socialization of how we were specifically taught by the people in our family. There’s the socialization of what we see in culture, TV, media, right? There’s the socialization of what did we learn from our friends at school? There’s all kinds of ways that we get socialization and messaging, right?
And then there’s like stuff like, oh, it’s five o’clock somewhere. Like that idea that five o’clock is like the time when people start drinking alcohol, right? It’s like, oh, it’s an after work thing. But also the idea of it’s five o’clock somewhere, meaning like, well, it’s always five o’clock somewhere, so then maybe like it’s always an appropriate time or I don’t know.
There’s all these different ideas around alcohol and I think it’s just really interesting to bring those to the surface and look at them consciously versus like, I think so much of our lives, especially before coaching, is being impacted by all these pieces of socialization without even necessarily realizing you’re being impacted by them.
So for me personally, I feel like the narrative in my head is like, we’re having fun now. Like this is how I know we’re having fun. But that’s also a narrative I want to question and push back on because I don’t want the only way to have fun to be with alcohol. But I had to purposely notice that and push back on it.
And it’s interesting, just to give you some context, my own relationship with alcohol has really changed over the years. I drank a lot when I was younger. And there was a period of time where I was a bartender and cocktail waitress and drinking, at least in the establishment I worked in, like drinking was very big in the culture of that, right?
So that’s another piece of socialization, right? When we have different life experiences, we exist in different subcultures. And working in a bar was a very specific subculture and the people I worked with there, they drank a lot. I think I drank a lot in that period of time and I actually think I was drinking a lot less than other people, which isn’t a judgment of them at all. It’s also like how much alcohol can your body tolerate? And I’m a lightweight and was even when I was drinking a lot more alcohol.
But I remember at that point in life, like what was normal then would not be normal now, I mean, in a lot of ways. But it’s also like I didn’t like that subculture. I even had the awareness at that time, even though this was way before coaching of being like – Well, it was way before I was a coach, but actually I was already reading lots of Martha Beck and she is one of the original life coaches.
So I was already beginning to simmer in those ideas and realizing like, hey, the way I’m living my life and the way I’m making my income does not feel good and aligned to me because it’s very oriented around drinking and getting other people to drink, right? Because that’s how you make money as a cocktail waitress and a bartender, people are drinking and you’re making tips off of it.
And then in more recent years, since I’ve gone through coach training and become a coach, I have also worked really actively with myself through the coaching lens on my drinking. Like my drinking has changed a lot over the years and all kinds of times. And there have been other times even before I had the toolkit I have now where I was shifting my drinking habits or noticing like, maybe I don’t like what these are doing.
But with the coaching toolkit, it is first of all, much easier and more pleasant. And I was able to kind of make much more progress in switching how I was doing that. And this is something, again, I’ve coached lots of clients on, right? So I want to talk about if you are drinking more than you would like to be, you can shift that habit.
And if you would rather just become a person who doesn’t drink, that’s also possible. But I talk to a lot of people who don’t want to quit drinking, they just want to drink less. And I do think that that is a possibility, at least for some people. And maybe there’s some people it’s not, right? But again, this is for casual drinkers, not for people who are experiencing alcoholism.
So for me, one of the things they taught us in my certification, because the program I went through had like one of the specific sub focuses was to stop over drinking. So they had kind of a process and it’s pretty basic, right? It’s like, first you kind of measure, how much am I drinking now? And then instead of setting unrealistic goals for yourself, you kind of make a plan.
And the way I did that was like I titrated down, right? And to titrate is kind of like just making really small shifts consistently over time. You can make a pretty big jump, but you don’t make the jump right away. So this is basically too small to fail, which is what I teach about how to build a habit, how to maintain a habit, how to do anything in your life that you’re not already doing is the idea of too small to fail. You start with a shift that’s so small, it’s more doable than not doing it.
And so with drinking, the first thing I did was measure how much I was drinking. And so here’s the key here, is often we maybe have a lot of shame and self judgment around something like drinking, especially if we think we should be doing less of it. So when you first measure, that’s also an opportunity to see, what are my internal judgments about myself for participating in this behavior?
And then what you want to do is like take notice of those, right? And then you may have to shift some of that in order to actually change the behavior. There’s this idea that judging and shaming yourself is good fuel for behavior change, and that is absolutely the opposite of what I have seen to be true.
As an example, if I drink too much and wake up the next morning and I’m hungover and I’m like, oh, what a terrible person I am, and I beat myself up all day, I’m probably going to want to escape from and get away from that person who’s beating me up all day. And how do we escape from and get away from things? Well, have a glass of wine, right?
So in that way, the judgment and the shame can actually drive you right back into the behavior you’re trying to shift. So when you go through and do an audit and look at how much you’re currently drinking, it’s probably going to trigger all of those judgments, shames, those self-criticisms.
And then you can kind of talk to them and be like, okay, I see that you want to judge and shame, but that’s not actually going to help me shift this. So what if instead I change this narrative to like, yeah, it makes total sense that you’re drinking because we live in a culture that really celebrates and promotes drinking. But also it’s okay you want to change this and you can, and we can start from anywhere and it can be okay, right?
So this could be the kind of way you could talk to yourself about any change you want to make that you want to actually do and have be sustainable. And this is kind of the in and out of how we do too small to fail and how we make these shifts. But so what it actually looked like for me was measuring my current amount of wine. And then like every weekend I would make a plan for the next week’s drinking.
And then over time I was slowly lowering the amounts of alcohol that I was consuming until it was where I wanted it to be. I’ve also done things like not drink for 30 days, not drink for 45 days, not drink for 90 days. And those have actually always been really interesting.
Anytime I took a longer break from drinking alcohol like that, I always learned really interesting things about myself because one of the things about alcohol is it lowers inhibitions. It releases a bunch of dopamine in your brain. It can kind of give you some like euphoric feelings. But what I’ve also seen to be true is it can kind of block some of your subtle knowing.
And so like I remember distinctly one time when I wasn’t drinking for 45 days, I went to a friend’s birthday party. It was a huge party. I used to love huge parties, or so I thought. But I went to this party and I was like, oh, I don’t like this. I don’t like being here. Like being here and drinking alcohol was something I had done for years, but being there with no alcohol, I didn’t like that experience at all.
Now, this was before coaching. Now as a coach, what I know is like, oh, I could be like, well, why don’t I like being here? What are the narratives in my head? Do I not like being here because I feel socially anxious without the alcohol? Like what’s actually happening. But at that point in my life, I didn’t really have that toolkit yet.
So basically I was just like, oh, I don’t like this and I’m not going to explore why. I’m just not going to do it anymore because I don’t have to. It’s not a requirement of my life. Like I’m actually allowed to just have a preference for being with friends in smaller groups or one-on-one, which doesn’t mean I won’t make an appearance at a friend’s party if it’s a big one. It just means I no longer prioritize going out of my way to go to that kind of thing because I no longer associate that as being something I actually really like.
So again, I do think there can be benefits to spending some time alcohol-free or spending some time sober. But I’ve also decided over the years that there are things I like about alcohol too. Benefits and drawbacks, always.
But I like wine culture and I like drinking wine and I like the flavors in wine. So for me, the focus with alcohol has really been like, how can I have this be part of my life and like really enjoy it when I am participating in it and also not have negative impacts because of it or limit the amount of negative impacts?
It’s not like I never have a hangover anymore, but the way I drink has really shifted. And most of the time it’s pretty easy for me to drink a small enough amount that I don’t feel physical impacts and to really enjoy that. And then to stop and drink something else or have water or whatever. So it doesn’t have the impact on me that it used to have.
Now, that being said, I do think it’s also fair in this podcast to say science has some concerning things to say about alcohol. So I’m not saying that this is an innocuous substance. It’s not. I just personally am of the mind that I’m not trying to live a life of absolute purity and only doing things that are 100% percent good for me. Because to me, that seems very perfectionistic on the one hand. And also I don’t think it’s possible.
So there are things that I engage in that have benefits and drawbacks. Like I eat sugar. I have dessert after pretty much every meal. I eat gluten and dairy, even though there is some evidence that maybe these can exacerbate inflammation, et cetera. I eat processed foods sometimes. I try to eat really healthy too, because I like the way it feels in my body. But I do eat processed foods. I fucking love French fries and onion rings and tater tots and all that stuff. Aioli is one of my very favorite things.
So to me, like I prize living what I call a human life, which means I’m going to do some things that are health promoting and I’m going to do some things that are not health promoting. Like I’m going to try to drink at least 60 ounces of water a day and take a walk and do some physical therapy activities.
And I’m also going to eat dark chocolate after breakfast and I’m going to have a glass of champagne and or rosé. Those are my things that I like. And once in a great while, a little bit of tequila. And I’m going to do these other things that are not as health promoting, but you get to choose for you.
So a few years ago, when I was really interested in all this stuff about alcohol and like what are its impacts on the body and is this something I want to have in my life, I read this one book that had some really interesting stuff in it. It’s called Quit Like a Woman by Holly Whitaker. And this book in particular, I would say, is very much in the direction of like alcohol is a poison and it’s bad for you.
But one of the things she said in this book that I really liked was like, understand what you can fuck with and what you cannot fuck with. And so the author has like a list of things I can fuck with and things I cannot fuck with. And for her, alcohol is a thing she cannot fuck with. Like when she drinks alcohol, things go badly for her. But there’s these other things that could go badly for someone else that she can fuck with, right?
And I can’t remember her list, it’s been a few years since I’ve read it. But that’s kind of the frame that I like to think of. Like what can I fuck with and what do I enjoy fucking with? So I’m going to include it in my life, even if there are some net negatives or it’s not health promoting or whatever. And what are the things I don’t fuck with, right?
And so for me, I like drinking and I’m able to do it in moderation in a way that feels okay for being part of my life and enjoyable. And so I’m going to keep it in for now. And then I reserve the right to change my mind about that, always. And the same thing for sugar and the same thing for chocolate. Because the dopamine thing, like I think alcohol artificially, like it releases an artificially large amount of dopamine in your brain when you eat it, but I’m pretty sure chocolate does too, right? So that’s just something interesting to think about.
Now, on the other hand, there are things I don’t fuck with, and some of them are things that lots of people think are totally innocuous and fine, right? I don’t fuck with caffeinated coffee anymore. And I drank caffeinated coffee for years and loved it. And if you told 10 years ago me that there was going to be a time in the future when I would not drink caffeinated coffee anymore, she would have been like, the fuck?
But I did a test a few years ago, not like a medical test. I’m one of those, like fuck around and find out doing experiments on myself people. And so I cut alcohol out for 60 days and it didn’t improve my sleep as much as I thought I would. So I read a book about sleep and it talked about caffeine. So I cut caffeine out, like I kept the alcohol out and then I cut caffeine out too. And it impacted my sleep so much more.
And then when I tried to put caffeine back in, it really messed my sleep up. And I was like, oh, okay. I have a choice to make. I totally could choose to drink caffeinated coffee, but the price in my life, for me, is not worth it. It’s just not worth it, I would rather have the sleep.
And sometimes with alcohol there have been times when I’m like, oh, most of the time I no longer drink after 8pm because when I do, that’s when it impacts my sleep. And that’s a hard fucking no for me. My sleep is like gold. It’s one of the things I prioritize most in my life. So when things start to infringe on it, I’m like, okay, that’s not working anymore.
That’s kind of a measure that I have versus like, there is a lot to be said for looking at overall data of like, okay, some scientists did a study. But I’m also a big proponent of understanding myself and what actually works or doesn’t work for me versus what a set of experts have discovered works best for groups of hundreds of thousands of people studying the whole group.
I’m not a whole group of people. Also, there’s tons of data where they’ve actually only studied like white men, and so sometimes results may vary. We might not be having the experience that the scientific data purports that we’re having. It’s kind of like the thing with crash test dummies, where women are injured in crashes a lot more because a lot of companies only crash test on crash test dummies that are modeled after men, not modeled after women.
I think science is really beneficial, but you always do have to be careful about what is the science that was actually done there?
Okay, this is a long episode, y’all. So I think what I want to also talk about is like, so what if you want to change your drinking habits? One way you can do that is the method I talked about before, where you do an audit, you see where you are now, and then you kind of shift. You downshift.
There are other ways you could do it. Like one thing I did when I was changing my drinking was I did that measuring method. But then on Saturdays, I would kind of not measure, I’d give myself permission like, I’m not going to count how many glasses, but I’m always going to have a glass of water in between everyone.
I experimented with a lot of different methodologies, but what I have really seen to be true is you also have to work on your thoughts. You have to work on your internal narratives because if you’re judging and shaming yourself and that judgment and shame leads to drinking, and then you try to cut the drinking out, first of all, it doesn’t usually work. It’s usually too painful for people to cut the drinking out because the drinking is doing an important job, which is protecting you from your own judging and shaming.
So usually you’ll judge and shame yourself for the drinking, but you’ll hold on to it really tightly. Or what people also sometimes do is they’ll stop drinking, but they’ll start eating like three bowls of ice cream. Or they’ll start scrolling on their phone or watching K-dramas until one in the morning.
If drinking is kind of doing a job and you don’t figure out what job it’s doing and work on that or shift it around so the job doesn’t need to be done, it can be really hard to get rid of the habit, right? Because it’s like meeting a need, right? So it’s kind of like, where are we starting? Is this just a habit? Is this just because we’ve been socialized that drinking is super fun or that this is my treat because I worked all day?
What is drinking doing in our lives? And what do we need to change in our lives so that the drinking’s job goes away? Or do we need to change how we talk to ourselves? Or is this just like, oh, I just like the taste and it’s easy to drink too much of it so I just need to be a little bit more mindful?
In order to shift your drinking, it helps to understand how much you’re doing and why you’re doing it. And then you can kind of play with those drivers and see what needs to be changed. But I would say for most people, because most people who want to drink less have some judgment and self-criticism and shame around the amount they’re drinking, that’s definitely something that needs to be addressed.
And then if we’re drinking whether we want to be, it’s like figuring out like why are we doing that? Because we do things that make sense. Even if they don’t make sense, they make sense to some layer of us or some level of us. And when you get in there and understand what that is, it’s much easier to work on it and change it.
So if you’re a person who wants to drink less, I definitely think it’s possible. I do think coaching tools can help. And if you have follow-up questions, I can do another podcast on this or a TikTok about it or whatever. But I think this kind of is a great place to start the conversation.
Also, if you for sure know this is something you want to work on and you don’t want to go digging around in those stories yourself or you don’t want to go messing about with it because it feels like overwhelming or a lot of shame comes up, this is exactly the kind of thing we can work on together in one-on-one coaching. I have spaces available for new clients and I have a sliding scale now. So there are a variety of price points at which we can work together.
And I really enjoy coaching on this because the coaching I’ve done on this on myself and my own life has made a huge difference. Like I said before, the way I drink now and the way I used to drink are wildly different. I’ve also had clients where we coach on other things in their life and they spontaneously drink less or stop drinking at all.
I’ve actually had multiple clients who almost entirely don’t drink now because we cleared up their work stress and we cleared up their marriage stress and we cleared up their parenting stress and we cleared up the stress about their parents and their other things in their life. And so they were drinking alcohol as a way to unwind or de-stress but because coaching helped them do that, they don’t have that need anymore.
So these two clients in particular, I don’t think we ever coached on drinking and they just mostly don’t anymore because it just doesn’t seem interesting or appealing. Now, not everyone’s like that. Like I’ve done a fuckload of coaching and I still drink and I really like it and I’m not, like I don’t have any plans at this moment, like I said before, to stop. But the way I drink has changed a ton. And I would say most of the time, almost all the time, I’m not over drinking.
Now, occasionally, I find a glass of wine I like and I maybe have more than I need to. But that used to be kind of the rule and now it’s the exception. So both of these are possible. And if that’s something you want to work on, I would love to work on it with you. And you can just go to korilinn.com/consult, I think is the link. You can just go to my website and click on the work with me tab and you can book time on my calendar and we can have a conversation about how we can work on this together.
All right, that’s what I have for y’all this week and I’ll talk to you next week. Bye.
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Hello, hello, hello. Happy Wednesday. I am feeling almost all the way better and it’s so exciting. I was sick for so long, y’all. It’s been almost a month since I first started feeling bad and it’s been a wild ride. And I’m just feeling so grateful to be feeling even most of the way better.
I can breathe through my nose, that’s super exciting. I can talk. There was a period of time where I could only talk for a little bit and then my voice would start to hurt. Maybe you’ve had that happen before with a sore throat. And I’m just really grateful for feeling well.
And I’m trying to really hold onto that because something I’ve noticed is that right after being sick, I’m so grateful to be able to breathe through my nose. I’m so grateful just to feel normal. And then after a while, feeling normal stops seeming special, right?
Maybe you’ve experienced this in your own life too, because I see this with clients all the time. It’s like we get used to things working and then that stops seeming like something wonderful. And one of the cornerstones of my coaching philosophy is that you can have so much satisfaction in your life immediately by noticing and reveling and delighting in the things that are working.
So every day I’ve been opening up my notes app and writing what’s working, what’s going well, which is something I recommend all the time. And I’m just continuing to put like, I can breathe through my nose. I’m sleeping. My limbs work, which they didn’t stop working while I was ill, but realizing how exciting it is to breathe through my nose has made me realize all the other things that are working that didn’t even stop working while I was super sick. And that’s just all a lot that I can really enjoy. And why not enjoy it?
Why not enjoy the things that are working and take pleasure in those, even as there are other things we’re continuing to work on? Because we’re never going to be complete, right? Life is always constantly moving. Even when we achieve one goal, then we have new goals.
Like I remember when I was brand new in my business, all I wanted was to make $100,000 in 12 months and basically replace my corporate pay. And then I did that. And then, of course, I started setting bigger goals for myself. And then this past year actually, it was the first year ever in my business where I made less money than the year before.
And there’s part of me that was so disappointed and disheartened by that. But there’s this other part of me that’s like, okay, but the amount of money I made is still a lot of money. It’s still more than $100,000. And that old version of me who first started my business, she would be over fucking joyed by that amount of money.
So we can also revel and delight in that, even if we want to have bigger goals that take us further or that are beyond our current ability or capacity or just beyond what we’re currently experiencing.
Okay, before we get into today’s topic, I wanted to read something one of my previous clients wrote. So sometimes after working with people, I send out questions to ask about their experience. One of the questions I asked in this round was what results have you created with coaching that would seem like absolute magic to the pre-coaching version of you? And here’s what this client wrote.
We’re going to call this client Janine. Janine says, “I came into coaching looking for help in my career, but knowing I was working on some things in my personal life that I had put off addressing for some time. Those personal experiences left me living a very guarded life, protecting myself from allowing people into my life. Working with Kori, I knew I was ready to address this part of my life in a safe space.
Kori heard my story without judgment and helped me to choose how I wanted to think about it to create a different outcome. I moved through this and came out the other side knowing that I handled it with great respect and care for all, including myself. I am finding my way back to a lighter version of myself. The last year of my life has brought the biggest jumps in my personal growth and healing in spite of working on it very intentionally for years.”
Thank you so much, Janine, for sharing your experience with everyone. And yes, I do have permission to share. And thank you very much for all the work you did. Coaching is a co-creative process. So I show up as the coach with everything I know, and my clients also show up and then they have to bring the topics and they have to tell me what’s going on.
And then coaching can be very confronting too, right? So they’re looking at these things going on in their life, looking at these patterns that have been longstanding for months, for years, sometimes for decades, and then very intentionally shifting that and choosing to do it a different way so that they can have a life that’s more satisfying and delicious.
And I’m so proud and impressed by the things my clients do, by the changes they make and the choices they make and the ways that they reorient their lives. So thank you so much, Janine, for trusting me with your story and with everything that was going on with you. And it was my pleasure and delight to coach you and help you come back to a lighter version of yourself and help you take the biggest jump in your personal growth and healing you had in years.
Okay, now let’s jump into this week’s topic. We’re talking about alcohol, and this is a really interesting topic. It’s something I’ve done a lot of coaching on myself, and I’ve coached a lot of clients on this as well. So first things first, we’re just going to say this is not advice. I am not a medical professional. I’m not a substance abuse professional.
And if you’re experiencing drinking in an alcoholic way, this podcast is not the right resource for you. There are plenty of other resources. If you just get online and Google for that, you’ll find plenty of resources for whatever area of the world you’re in, and there are amazing things out there.
But what we’re talking about for this podcast is how are we as human beings socialized around alcohol? What are the narratives we have about alcohol? What are our alcohol habits and would we like to change them? And this is for people who maybe want to stop drinking altogether or maybe just want to stop over drinking or shift their drinking habits somewhat.
But again, it’s not for people who are experiencing alcoholism and substance abuse issues. That’s a different topic, actually. Even though it still could be about alcohol, it’s a different topic and there’s going to be different teachings there.
Okay, so now that we have those caveats out of the way, let’s talk about booze, y’all. So some of the stuff I want to talk about first is like the socialization around alcohol. I think this is really important for understanding the urges we have and why alcohol holds the place it does in our lives.
So I don’t know about you, but for me, the way I’ve been socialized around alcohol is like this is for adults. This is for fun. Like this is something we do on weekends. It’s something we do in the evenings. It’s something we do at parties. It’s something you do when you’re celebrating. It’s something you’re doing when you’ve had a bad day, but it’s also something you do when you have a great day.
Like it’s really interesting if you say the word celebration to me, the very first thing I think of is the party popper emoji, which is like my number one most used emoji all the time, both in personal communications and also in communications to my clients because I’m all about celebration. But the number two thing that I think of is a glass of champagne, right? Sparkling wine is seen as this symbol, this emblem of celebration in our culture.
Think about weddings, right? We toast with sparkling wine. We toast with champagne. You think about when someone is like, oh, I’ve had a hard day, I just need a glass of wine. Or they’re like, oh, we’re meeting up with my friends, we’re going to get beers. Or like, oh, we’re very sophisticated, we’re going to drink our scotch or whatever.
And I think it’s really interesting because I think socialization is so powerful and it shapes our lives so much more than we even realize it does. And that’s something we talk about all the time on the podcast, right? Like we’ve been socialized often to associate our worthiness with whether or not other people approve of us and what they think of us.
Or we’ve been socialized to associate our worthiness with specifically how well we’re doing at work and if we’re working harder than everyone else or if we’re moving up the ranks quickly enough. And so I think alcohol is a topic where that socialization is just as impactful.
And then there’s also this other set of socialization around alcohol of like, don’t drink too much. Don’t be someone who can’t say no to drinking. Don’t be sloppy. Socialization is so interesting, right? Because it’s such a mix and match, right? It’s such a collection of all these various ideas.
You can have multiple pieces of socialization that directly conflict with each other. I think that happens all the time, actually, and creates a lot of feelings of stuckness or confusion internally when we have multiple pieces of socialization that are pushing us in different directions, right?
Anyways, so there’s all this other socialization about alcohol too because alcoholism is something that does happen a lot. Like there’s alcoholism in my family and I know a lot of people who have alcoholism in their families and it’s something we see in the media and stories. It’s interesting because you see both, right?
Like I watch a lot of TV, and I watched even more TV while I was sick, and it was interesting to see on the shows like some of the shows the drinking of alcohol is very common. Like everyone always has a drink in their hand and then there are other shows where there’s no alcohol and I thought that was really interesting.
One of the shows I watched, it’s like I don’t know that I saw them drink alcohol except for maybe a few times and I watched like four seasons of it, but they were smoking cigarettes, right? So then that’s another substance, like that was the substance that they were using all the time throughout the show.
So there’s the socialization of how we were specifically taught by the people in our family. There’s the socialization of what we see in culture, TV, media, right? There’s the socialization of what did we learn from our friends at school? There’s all kinds of ways that we get socialization and messaging, right?
And then there’s like stuff like, oh, it’s five o’clock somewhere. Like that idea that five o’clock is like the time when people start drinking alcohol, right? It’s like, oh, it’s an after work thing. But also the idea of it’s five o’clock somewhere, meaning like, well, it’s always five o’clock somewhere, so then maybe like it’s always an appropriate time or I don’t know.
There’s all these different ideas around alcohol and I think it’s just really interesting to bring those to the surface and look at them consciously versus like, I think so much of our lives, especially before coaching, is being impacted by all these pieces of socialization without even necessarily realizing you’re being impacted by them.
So for me personally, I feel like the narrative in my head is like, we’re having fun now. Like this is how I know we’re having fun. But that’s also a narrative I want to question and push back on because I don’t want the only way to have fun to be with alcohol. But I had to purposely notice that and push back on it.
And it’s interesting, just to give you some context, my own relationship with alcohol has really changed over the years. I drank a lot when I was younger. And there was a period of time where I was a bartender and cocktail waitress and drinking, at least in the establishment I worked in, like drinking was very big in the culture of that, right?
So that’s another piece of socialization, right? When we have different life experiences, we exist in different subcultures. And working in a bar was a very specific subculture and the people I worked with there, they drank a lot. I think I drank a lot in that period of time and I actually think I was drinking a lot less than other people, which isn’t a judgment of them at all. It’s also like how much alcohol can your body tolerate? And I’m a lightweight and was even when I was drinking a lot more alcohol.
But I remember at that point in life, like what was normal then would not be normal now, I mean, in a lot of ways. But it’s also like I didn’t like that subculture. I even had the awareness at that time, even though this was way before coaching of being like – Well, it was way before I was a coach, but actually I was already reading lots of Martha Beck and she is one of the original life coaches.
So I was already beginning to simmer in those ideas and realizing like, hey, the way I’m living my life and the way I’m making my income does not feel good and aligned to me because it’s very oriented around drinking and getting other people to drink, right? Because that’s how you make money as a cocktail waitress and a bartender, people are drinking and you’re making tips off of it.
And then in more recent years, since I’ve gone through coach training and become a coach, I have also worked really actively with myself through the coaching lens on my drinking. Like my drinking has changed a lot over the years and all kinds of times. And there have been other times even before I had the toolkit I have now where I was shifting my drinking habits or noticing like, maybe I don’t like what these are doing.
But with the coaching toolkit, it is first of all, much easier and more pleasant. And I was able to kind of make much more progress in switching how I was doing that. And this is something, again, I’ve coached lots of clients on, right? So I want to talk about if you are drinking more than you would like to be, you can shift that habit.
And if you would rather just become a person who doesn’t drink, that’s also possible. But I talk to a lot of people who don’t want to quit drinking, they just want to drink less. And I do think that that is a possibility, at least for some people. And maybe there’s some people it’s not, right? But again, this is for casual drinkers, not for people who are experiencing alcoholism.
So for me, one of the things they taught us in my certification, because the program I went through had like one of the specific sub focuses was to stop over drinking. So they had kind of a process and it’s pretty basic, right? It’s like, first you kind of measure, how much am I drinking now? And then instead of setting unrealistic goals for yourself, you kind of make a plan.
And the way I did that was like I titrated down, right? And to titrate is kind of like just making really small shifts consistently over time. You can make a pretty big jump, but you don’t make the jump right away. So this is basically too small to fail, which is what I teach about how to build a habit, how to maintain a habit, how to do anything in your life that you’re not already doing is the idea of too small to fail. You start with a shift that’s so small, it’s more doable than not doing it.
And so with drinking, the first thing I did was measure how much I was drinking. And so here’s the key here, is often we maybe have a lot of shame and self judgment around something like drinking, especially if we think we should be doing less of it. So when you first measure, that’s also an opportunity to see, what are my internal judgments about myself for participating in this behavior?
And then what you want to do is like take notice of those, right? And then you may have to shift some of that in order to actually change the behavior. There’s this idea that judging and shaming yourself is good fuel for behavior change, and that is absolutely the opposite of what I have seen to be true.
As an example, if I drink too much and wake up the next morning and I’m hungover and I’m like, oh, what a terrible person I am, and I beat myself up all day, I’m probably going to want to escape from and get away from that person who’s beating me up all day. And how do we escape from and get away from things? Well, have a glass of wine, right?
So in that way, the judgment and the shame can actually drive you right back into the behavior you’re trying to shift. So when you go through and do an audit and look at how much you’re currently drinking, it’s probably going to trigger all of those judgments, shames, those self-criticisms.
And then you can kind of talk to them and be like, okay, I see that you want to judge and shame, but that’s not actually going to help me shift this. So what if instead I change this narrative to like, yeah, it makes total sense that you’re drinking because we live in a culture that really celebrates and promotes drinking. But also it’s okay you want to change this and you can, and we can start from anywhere and it can be okay, right?
So this could be the kind of way you could talk to yourself about any change you want to make that you want to actually do and have be sustainable. And this is kind of the in and out of how we do too small to fail and how we make these shifts. But so what it actually looked like for me was measuring my current amount of wine. And then like every weekend I would make a plan for the next week’s drinking.
And then over time I was slowly lowering the amounts of alcohol that I was consuming until it was where I wanted it to be. I’ve also done things like not drink for 30 days, not drink for 45 days, not drink for 90 days. And those have actually always been really interesting.
Anytime I took a longer break from drinking alcohol like that, I always learned really interesting things about myself because one of the things about alcohol is it lowers inhibitions. It releases a bunch of dopamine in your brain. It can kind of give you some like euphoric feelings. But what I’ve also seen to be true is it can kind of block some of your subtle knowing.
And so like I remember distinctly one time when I wasn’t drinking for 45 days, I went to a friend’s birthday party. It was a huge party. I used to love huge parties, or so I thought. But I went to this party and I was like, oh, I don’t like this. I don’t like being here. Like being here and drinking alcohol was something I had done for years, but being there with no alcohol, I didn’t like that experience at all.
Now, this was before coaching. Now as a coach, what I know is like, oh, I could be like, well, why don’t I like being here? What are the narratives in my head? Do I not like being here because I feel socially anxious without the alcohol? Like what’s actually happening. But at that point in my life, I didn’t really have that toolkit yet.
So basically I was just like, oh, I don’t like this and I’m not going to explore why. I’m just not going to do it anymore because I don’t have to. It’s not a requirement of my life. Like I’m actually allowed to just have a preference for being with friends in smaller groups or one-on-one, which doesn’t mean I won’t make an appearance at a friend’s party if it’s a big one. It just means I no longer prioritize going out of my way to go to that kind of thing because I no longer associate that as being something I actually really like.
So again, I do think there can be benefits to spending some time alcohol-free or spending some time sober. But I’ve also decided over the years that there are things I like about alcohol too. Benefits and drawbacks, always.
But I like wine culture and I like drinking wine and I like the flavors in wine. So for me, the focus with alcohol has really been like, how can I have this be part of my life and like really enjoy it when I am participating in it and also not have negative impacts because of it or limit the amount of negative impacts?
It’s not like I never have a hangover anymore, but the way I drink has really shifted. And most of the time it’s pretty easy for me to drink a small enough amount that I don’t feel physical impacts and to really enjoy that. And then to stop and drink something else or have water or whatever. So it doesn’t have the impact on me that it used to have.
Now, that being said, I do think it’s also fair in this podcast to say science has some concerning things to say about alcohol. So I’m not saying that this is an innocuous substance. It’s not. I just personally am of the mind that I’m not trying to live a life of absolute purity and only doing things that are 100% percent good for me. Because to me, that seems very perfectionistic on the one hand. And also I don’t think it’s possible.
So there are things that I engage in that have benefits and drawbacks. Like I eat sugar. I have dessert after pretty much every meal. I eat gluten and dairy, even though there is some evidence that maybe these can exacerbate inflammation, et cetera. I eat processed foods sometimes. I try to eat really healthy too, because I like the way it feels in my body. But I do eat processed foods. I fucking love French fries and onion rings and tater tots and all that stuff. Aioli is one of my very favorite things.
So to me, like I prize living what I call a human life, which means I’m going to do some things that are health promoting and I’m going to do some things that are not health promoting. Like I’m going to try to drink at least 60 ounces of water a day and take a walk and do some physical therapy activities.
And I’m also going to eat dark chocolate after breakfast and I’m going to have a glass of champagne and or rosé. Those are my things that I like. And once in a great while, a little bit of tequila. And I’m going to do these other things that are not as health promoting, but you get to choose for you.
So a few years ago, when I was really interested in all this stuff about alcohol and like what are its impacts on the body and is this something I want to have in my life, I read this one book that had some really interesting stuff in it. It’s called Quit Like a Woman by Holly Whitaker. And this book in particular, I would say, is very much in the direction of like alcohol is a poison and it’s bad for you.
But one of the things she said in this book that I really liked was like, understand what you can fuck with and what you cannot fuck with. And so the author has like a list of things I can fuck with and things I cannot fuck with. And for her, alcohol is a thing she cannot fuck with. Like when she drinks alcohol, things go badly for her. But there’s these other things that could go badly for someone else that she can fuck with, right?
And I can’t remember her list, it’s been a few years since I’ve read it. But that’s kind of the frame that I like to think of. Like what can I fuck with and what do I enjoy fucking with? So I’m going to include it in my life, even if there are some net negatives or it’s not health promoting or whatever. And what are the things I don’t fuck with, right?
And so for me, I like drinking and I’m able to do it in moderation in a way that feels okay for being part of my life and enjoyable. And so I’m going to keep it in for now. And then I reserve the right to change my mind about that, always. And the same thing for sugar and the same thing for chocolate. Because the dopamine thing, like I think alcohol artificially, like it releases an artificially large amount of dopamine in your brain when you eat it, but I’m pretty sure chocolate does too, right? So that’s just something interesting to think about.
Now, on the other hand, there are things I don’t fuck with, and some of them are things that lots of people think are totally innocuous and fine, right? I don’t fuck with caffeinated coffee anymore. And I drank caffeinated coffee for years and loved it. And if you told 10 years ago me that there was going to be a time in the future when I would not drink caffeinated coffee anymore, she would have been like, the fuck?
But I did a test a few years ago, not like a medical test. I’m one of those, like fuck around and find out doing experiments on myself people. And so I cut alcohol out for 60 days and it didn’t improve my sleep as much as I thought I would. So I read a book about sleep and it talked about caffeine. So I cut caffeine out, like I kept the alcohol out and then I cut caffeine out too. And it impacted my sleep so much more.
And then when I tried to put caffeine back in, it really messed my sleep up. And I was like, oh, okay. I have a choice to make. I totally could choose to drink caffeinated coffee, but the price in my life, for me, is not worth it. It’s just not worth it, I would rather have the sleep.
And sometimes with alcohol there have been times when I’m like, oh, most of the time I no longer drink after 8pm because when I do, that’s when it impacts my sleep. And that’s a hard fucking no for me. My sleep is like gold. It’s one of the things I prioritize most in my life. So when things start to infringe on it, I’m like, okay, that’s not working anymore.
That’s kind of a measure that I have versus like, there is a lot to be said for looking at overall data of like, okay, some scientists did a study. But I’m also a big proponent of understanding myself and what actually works or doesn’t work for me versus what a set of experts have discovered works best for groups of hundreds of thousands of people studying the whole group.
I’m not a whole group of people. Also, there’s tons of data where they’ve actually only studied like white men, and so sometimes results may vary. We might not be having the experience that the scientific data purports that we’re having. It’s kind of like the thing with crash test dummies, where women are injured in crashes a lot more because a lot of companies only crash test on crash test dummies that are modeled after men, not modeled after women.
I think science is really beneficial, but you always do have to be careful about what is the science that was actually done there?
Okay, this is a long episode, y’all. So I think what I want to also talk about is like, so what if you want to change your drinking habits? One way you can do that is the method I talked about before, where you do an audit, you see where you are now, and then you kind of shift. You downshift.
There are other ways you could do it. Like one thing I did when I was changing my drinking was I did that measuring method. But then on Saturdays, I would kind of not measure, I’d give myself permission like, I’m not going to count how many glasses, but I’m always going to have a glass of water in between everyone.
I experimented with a lot of different methodologies, but what I have really seen to be true is you also have to work on your thoughts. You have to work on your internal narratives because if you’re judging and shaming yourself and that judgment and shame leads to drinking, and then you try to cut the drinking out, first of all, it doesn’t usually work. It’s usually too painful for people to cut the drinking out because the drinking is doing an important job, which is protecting you from your own judging and shaming.
So usually you’ll judge and shame yourself for the drinking, but you’ll hold on to it really tightly. Or what people also sometimes do is they’ll stop drinking, but they’ll start eating like three bowls of ice cream. Or they’ll start scrolling on their phone or watching K-dramas until one in the morning.
If drinking is kind of doing a job and you don’t figure out what job it’s doing and work on that or shift it around so the job doesn’t need to be done, it can be really hard to get rid of the habit, right? Because it’s like meeting a need, right? So it’s kind of like, where are we starting? Is this just a habit? Is this just because we’ve been socialized that drinking is super fun or that this is my treat because I worked all day?
What is drinking doing in our lives? And what do we need to change in our lives so that the drinking’s job goes away? Or do we need to change how we talk to ourselves? Or is this just like, oh, I just like the taste and it’s easy to drink too much of it so I just need to be a little bit more mindful?
In order to shift your drinking, it helps to understand how much you’re doing and why you’re doing it. And then you can kind of play with those drivers and see what needs to be changed. But I would say for most people, because most people who want to drink less have some judgment and self-criticism and shame around the amount they’re drinking, that’s definitely something that needs to be addressed.
And then if we’re drinking whether we want to be, it’s like figuring out like why are we doing that? Because we do things that make sense. Even if they don’t make sense, they make sense to some layer of us or some level of us. And when you get in there and understand what that is, it’s much easier to work on it and change it.
So if you’re a person who wants to drink less, I definitely think it’s possible. I do think coaching tools can help. And if you have follow-up questions, I can do another podcast on this or a TikTok about it or whatever. But I think this kind of is a great place to start the conversation.
Also, if you for sure know this is something you want to work on and you don’t want to go digging around in those stories yourself or you don’t want to go messing about with it because it feels like overwhelming or a lot of shame comes up, this is exactly the kind of thing we can work on together in one-on-one coaching. I have spaces available for new clients and I have a sliding scale now. So there are a variety of price points at which we can work together.
And I really enjoy coaching on this because the coaching I’ve done on this on myself and my own life has made a huge difference. Like I said before, the way I drink now and the way I used to drink are wildly different. I’ve also had clients where we coach on other things in their life and they spontaneously drink less or stop drinking at all.
I’ve actually had multiple clients who almost entirely don’t drink now because we cleared up their work stress and we cleared up their marriage stress and we cleared up their parenting stress and we cleared up the stress about their parents and their other things in their life. And so they were drinking alcohol as a way to unwind or de-stress but because coaching helped them do that, they don’t have that need anymore.
So these two clients in particular, I don’t think we ever coached on drinking and they just mostly don’t anymore because it just doesn’t seem interesting or appealing. Now, not everyone’s like that. Like I’ve done a fuckload of coaching and I still drink and I really like it and I’m not, like I don’t have any plans at this moment, like I said before, to stop. But the way I drink has changed a ton. And I would say most of the time, almost all the time, I’m not over drinking.
Now, occasionally, I find a glass of wine I like and I maybe have more than I need to. But that used to be kind of the rule and now it’s the exception. So both of these are possible. And if that’s something you want to work on, I would love to work on it with you. And you can just go to korilinn.com/consult, I think is the link. You can just go to my website and click on the work with me tab and you can book time on my calendar and we can have a conversation about how we can work on this together.
All right, that’s what I have for y’all this week and I’ll talk to you next week. Bye.
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